Reformation Apoatles and Prophets!

Great Blog by my Friend Apostle Jim Becton.

James Becton Ministries/ EaglesVision Apostolic Co!

I love the renewed emphasis on the clarification of apostles today, their heart, function, and Sonship! I talk with ministry relationships almost every day, both prophets and apostles, and the timing for understanding apostles and prophets is crucial! I was talking with my friend, Apostle Michael Fram recently, and when he joined me in our group, Apostolic Teaching Fathers!, five year ago, it was still a big deal to identify and clarify apostles!

I found we were one of the first groups on Facebook, as many mature apostles and prophets stated when becoming a part of the group, to deal with the issues of true and false apostles! Not only that, but how to recognize emerging apostles and see the process that it takes to mature from Sonship to Apostleship, as well as the true shift from a prophet to an apostle!

We also shared about the “heart of the…

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Kingdom Culture & Apostolic Government

Yesterday I had the privilege of hosting a Roundtable discussion of Seasoned Leaders. These thoughts were kind of my summation at the end of one of the topics of discussion.

Jesus called the 12 to be with Him, and then named them as Apostles, a military term, meaning Admiral or General.


His Kingdom His Culture


This was also the beginning of Establishing Kingdom Order and Kingdom Culture.

There was to be Authority and Structure in the Kingdom where it’s Envoys carried and exercised the Authority Of The King.

But many then did not, and now do not, understand the Laws of the Kingdom.

The Kingdom He was establishing was not like earthly Kingdoms. The Law and Culture of His Kingdom is the Law of Love.

Even some of the 12 did not get it at first:

“But Jesus called them to Himself and said, “You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and those who are great exercise authority over them. Yet it shall not be so among you; but whoever desires to become great among you, let him be your servant. And whoever desires to be first among you, let him be your slave— just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many.”” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭20:25-28‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

Even though there is Rank, Order, and Authority with Apostles in the Kingdom; The Kingdom Culture He Established was not too Lord it over everyone else as earthly kingdoms do, but to serve the others.

It is true that Apostles were set in the church First.

It is true that the Word First means First in rank, order or succession.

But the Culture Of His Kingdom was one of love and servanthood, not one of lording it over.

Where many Apostles on a Power Trip have missed it, is that they have not had a revelation of the Law of the Kingdom (Love), only of the order of the Kingdom (Generals or Admirals).

One cannot truly understand Apostolic Government and Order apart from understanding Kingdom Culture.

Levels Of Fathering

I had the privilege this morning to be part of an interactive webinar, with a diverse group of International Fathering Leaders, where this subject was part of the discussion. It was quite refreshing to be with Kingdom Leaders and have open dialogue, sharing at a higher level than normal. There was no “keeping up with the Jones’” or “I am more important than you”, going on, but simply how can we redefine, bring clarity, and a good working definition to Spiritual Fathers.

As with many things in Ecclesia, we have a tendency to take a “one size fits all approach” to much of what we do. For example, as we look at the New Testament we have several examples of Apostles, but as we compare them, we find out that no two really operated or functioned the same. Yet, we have taken Paul as the example of the “Prototype Apostle” and made him the measuring stick of what all Apostles will look or function like.

Proud African American father with teenage son

Well, we have done the same thing with Spiritual Fathers. It seems that what many are longing for today is the Intimate Personal Spiritual Father. There is a great need for this type of Father, but it is not the only type. There are also National Fathers that Father us, but from a different way than the Intimate Personal Father does. Where we get into trouble is when we expect the Intimate Personal Father to act like the National Father, and vice versa.

Let me speak from my own experience. As a teenager growing up and being groomed for ministry by my Father, Leo Fram, it was a very hands-on, intimate relationship. He sat me down in the living room of the house I grew up in and taught me how to write sermon outlines, how to correlate Scripture, organize my thoughts in a systematic pattern so it would be easy for folks to follow. He told me the things I did right, and corrected me in the things that I did not do right, by explaining how I could do them better.

At twenty years of age, right after I got married, I enrolled in Rhema Bible Training Center (Now it is Rhema Bible Training College, but back then it was Training Center) and I was able to sit at Rev. Kenneth E. (Dad) Hagin’s feet for two years. Before I enrolled in Rhema, I had already read most of his books and had listened to many of his teaching tapes. Brother Hagin was every bit of a Father to me as Leo Fram was, but clearly on a different level.

I carry the Spiritual DNA of both Leo Fram and Kenneth Hagin, but their impartation did not come the same way. I think I actually said hello to Brother Hagin and shook his hand twice in the ten years I lived in Tulsa, where Leo Fram laid hands on me many times through the years (and as I tell my son now…not for blessing) as there was much correction…as well as impartation. Yet they both Fathered me.

Kenneth Hagin was not going to Father me the same way Leo Fram did, and Leo Fram did not Father me the way Kenneth Hagin did. Which one was the most important? They were both important to my development of growing as a Son and developing to the place where I could grow into becoming a Father myself.

Many are looking for the National Father to act like the Personal Intimate Father, and when they don’t or can’t because of the demands of their Metron, folks get upset with them. Many are also just looking for the National Father, sometimes because of unrealistic expectations, or because they are looking for someone with a large platform that can increase their own platform, all the while overlooking the Personal Intimate Father that is right in front of their nose, that God has put in their path to pour into them one on one.

Please hear me Brother and Sister. The Personal Intimate Father will give you their Cell Phone Number and will go out of their way to make time for you that the National Father will not be able to, but that does not mean that you don’t need the National Father, and that they aren’t just as important to your development as the Personal Intimate father is.

Can we please be delivered from the either/or mentality that has plagued the church and embrace the both/and mentality? The National Father will not interact with you like the Personal Intimate Father will, and the Personal Intimate Father will interact with you in a way the National Father can’t. Please Accept and Honor them both for the role that they play in your developing Sonship, imparting their Spiritual DNA to you according to their Metron and Assignment in your life. If you receive both as they are designed to function in your life you will grow exponentially in the days ahead!